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Wednesday, October 27 2021 - 9:38 PM
By: Neoriceisgood

Fo' Sure.

We here at the HoH headquarters do not support any form of bigotry.

28350: Author's Note - Wednesday, October 27 2021 - 9:39 PM

That 10 mill should be 5 mill, will fix later. It is the reward money for identifying the culprit.

28351: Paintr - Wednesday, October 27 2021 - 9:45 PM

By golly, it seems every place in this world is infested with some manner of villainy or corruption.
Maybe that's why the ghouls gaining such a reputation as indiscriminate killers. They just read the plot synopsis of the world module and didn't get anymore invested than that. Of course, that makes some big assumptions about the true nature of ghouls, but in going by what we know of their lifestyles it seems like they've got a decent chance of often accidentally killing actual bad guys in their rampages.

28352: Anunknownman - Wednesday, October 27 2021 - 9:51 PM

"Capable of" is said twice in panel 2.

28353: nullum - Thursday, October 28 2021 - 12:13 AM

I should have posted this yesterday, but for anyone still wondering about that 5 million: the last panel of https://www.neorice.com/hoh_2057 explains.

28354: Potatopeelerkind - Thursday, October 28 2021 - 12:38 AM

Hmm, I still don't think I understand what Fox means. Recognise her status as being a woman?

28355: random - Thursday, October 28 2021 - 12:43 AM

Also, "unappealing" in the pre-last panel should be double p.

I respect that someone wants to be more of a woman and less of a beast.

28356: LiuNora - Thursday, October 28 2021 - 12:50 AM

Ooohhhh, trans Fox!

28357: giovanni - Thursday, October 28 2021 - 2:55 AM

now now liunora, lets not say bad words

Fox might refer to the Beast Kingdom for having laws similar to the real world Islamic ones

28358: Bisected - Thursday, October 28 2021 - 3:12 AM

@Potatopeelerkind: She's a trans woman, Harold. ;)

28359: noname - Thursday, October 28 2021 - 4:36 AM

I begrudgingly have to concede that Levin has a point: The reason why mutants are such a bad metaphor for oppressed minorities is because someone being able to, for example, shoot deadly lasers with their eyes lends credit to the idea that fearing them is justified on some level -- which of course isn't ever the case with real-life bigotry... That said, based upon Levin's use of the expressions "unhinged beasts" and "deviant lifestyles", I would still assume that he actually IS a bigot on top of everything else. Bigots do tend to consider their prejudiced fear of others justified after all.

@giovanni: Why go for "real world Islamic ones" when, from what I've heard, "real world American ones" has become increasingly accurate as of late thanks to the efforts of the trump* party?

28360: Violet - Thursday, October 28 2021 - 5:24 AM

Very interesting to know that about Fox! Kind of nice to hear, actually.

28361: Tom - Thursday, October 28 2021 - 8:11 AM

"Deviant" lifestyles? I don't even know what qualifies as "normal" in that world.

Also, good catch on the commenters who pointed out Fox being trans!

28362: Whim - Thursday, October 28 2021 - 8:12 AM

Fox said trans rights <3

28363: tailiu - Thursday, October 28 2021 - 9:10 AM

WOOOOOO trans fox 🏳️‍⚧️

28364: someone - Thursday, October 28 2021 - 9:31 AM

Can this not be the Real Life Politics Discussion page fucking please and thanks? There's two people I'm addressing specifically, though especially the one who thinks the state of the middle east is even remotely comparable to how things are in the US because of an incredible load of ignorance and Americentric obsession, which is extremely warping their views of the world.

The rest of you? You're alright.

28365: Abbie - Thursday, October 28 2021 - 9:38 AM

It looks like thee smiley had a bit of a lag there.
And I took this to mean Fox is a lesbian.

28366: omni001 - Thursday, October 28 2021 - 10:36 AM

Out of curiosity I got to ask, I had no idea Fox is trans mostly because well, her sprite really really looks like a women, is that just an art style thing, is she just really good at cross dressing or had work done, or does her powers have something to do with that?

Either her seeming to have high control over her Polymorphic abilities or did the change of turning into a beastman reflect her personnel desires/personality in some way?

28367: Sheksb - Thursday, October 28 2021 - 1:01 PM

@omni001
Very transphobic, to asume trans women can’t look like women

28368: SFrip - Thursday, October 28 2021 - 1:25 PM

I figured the "recognise my status as being a woman" coupled with "us so-called non productives" meant that Fox does not adhere to women gender roles in beast kingdom. After reading the comments I guess her being trans also fits. Now I'm not sure which one it is, if any.

28369: Author's Note - Thursday, October 28 2021 - 2:19 PM

Yes Foxy is transgender for those confused.

28370: Rivershard - Thursday, October 28 2021 - 2:32 PM

This is a great bit of representation. Foxy is an all-around interesting character and this is only one fact about her, while it's also easy to see how she has to face additional challenges for it and how it ties into her curse.

28372: noname - Thursday, October 28 2021 - 3:10 PM

@someone: Between their shared (sometimes not entirely subtle) antisemitism, their loathing of American soldiers/veterans, their disdain of the majority of the American population and said population's freedom, their opinions about ideological purity and that god and religion should control the government, their advocacy of prayer in school, their obsessive focus on wars and violence, their primary news stations (Fox News and Al Resalah) being owned by Murdoch, their political leaders being filthy rich, their opposition of sex-ed, contraceptives, cis-women's reproductive rights and the LGBT+ community in general, I'd like to ask you to explain to me in what meaningful ways the GOP differs from the taliban... but seeing as you don't want this to be a Real Life Politics Discussion page, I suppose this Real Life Politics Discussion will have to conclude with me hammering in these similarities.

@Somni001: I concur with Sheksb; saying that you "had no idea Fox is trans mostly because well, her sprite really really looks like a women" and asking "is she just really good at cross dressing" first of all carries the overt implication that you think trans women cannot pass as women and secondly that you think a trans woman wearing women's clothing is "cross dressing." Men or trans men wearing women's clothing is cross dressing; women or trans women doing the same is not.

28373: TheMegax - Thursday, October 28 2021 - 3:31 PM

Well this is surprising but I'm onboard with this! Its nice seeing representation for the trans folk.

...and yeah, don't encourage Levin please

28374: Potatopeelerkind - Thursday, October 28 2021 - 7:40 PM

@noname God forbid the USA not be the focus of the conversation for even a moment.

28375: The_Squished_Elf - Thursday, October 28 2021 - 9:34 PM

I swear this comic has some of the most low-key representation in it. It’s great, people exist and it’s seldom ever a big deal unless people make it one

28376: omni001 - Thursday, October 28 2021 - 11:29 PM

@Sheksb
@noname

I'm asking about a sprite drawn with a literally cartoonish figure, not an actual human being.

A few chapters ago half the readers thought Noah's legs weren't working because the author kept overusing a falling down sprite.

I'm just trying figure out what's intentional design and not a quirk of the art style.

Also she's an actual shapeshifter that had her form mutated from her original human form, questioning supernatural shenagins in the fantasy comic isn't that big a deal.

28381: noname - Friday, October 29 2021 - 4:32 AM

@omni001: Fox's fictional nature does not make the questions you asked about her, the way you formulated said questions, or the world-views and perspectives espoused through them fictional though. E.g., "is she just really good at cross dressing" has nothing to do with Fox's fictional nature, it is only reflective of your perspective on gender identity pertaining to gendered clothing. Ergo, it's you expressing a form of bigotry, topically enough... And, no, I'm not pointing this out to attack you -- even if you probably feel attacked -- I'm pointing it out so that you may become aware of your own bigotry so that you may hopefully do something about it: Changing one's perspective in order to overcome personal bigotry is something one has to put effort into.

"Character growth isn't easy, but being made aware of its necessity is an important first step." - someone's dad probably

28387: Sheksb - Friday, October 29 2021 - 10:08 AM

@omni001
Very transphobic, to asume trans women can’t look like women

28388: omni001 - Friday, October 29 2021 - 10:47 AM

@ noname
@ Sheksb

Right, my mistake for replying with the assumption you're complaints actually had anything to do with trans rights and not just starting shit so you could appear "woke".

28402: noname - Saturday, October 30 2021 - 3:08 AM

@omni001
Eh, you're not alone in making mistakes and bad assumptions: My mistake was assuming that you were a decent enough person that you wouldn't want to subject trans people to the kind of emotional duress that can lead to depression and suicide by spouting the kinda transphobic bigotry that typically gets my niece sad and depressed to the point of self-destructive behaviour... Yeah, who would've thought that "you're just doing this to appear woke" was the real bad assumption you made when you could've assumed that we actually want to make society with less transphobic bigotry in it so that trans people can feel more welcome and accepted? I mean, it's not like your transphobic way of expressing yourself can lead to any negative consequences, like trans people committing suicide, right? And even if it did, I guess the right to life isn't enough of a trans right that it should require you to think a bit more about the way you speak when referring to them, huh? Because heaven forbid you'd have to inconvenience yourself for the sake of other people's well-being./snide sarcasm

I considered making this a sarcasm-free reply just asking you why you'd assume we were debating this with you just to project an image when it could sincerely be about us wanting what's best for other people, but you really pressed my buttons with that cynical take, so... you start shit just so you can appear like a douche, you eventually get treated like a douche -- even by those who wish you well.


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