So... neck snap?

Hmm. I'm wondering if that reminder about beastfolk rampaging was foreshadowing Maria doing something desperate. If I thought the two most dangerous people nearby were thinking about killing me, I'd sure be considering that play.

Foxy here with the recap of how Maria is a bitch.

Do ghouls gain XP for killing low-level NPCs? Does Maria qualify as one?

Maria is too sus now, it might be a red herring. I'd say the host could be the gang dude. he's the only one we basically know nothing about.

There is no checkerboard floor here, so how does she propose to harm Maria?

Well, well, that's how all your bad actions fall back on you, even in Lorg :D

Ooh, there are some Pixels of a Pablo in the new Banner :D

I doubt they'll just kill her. None of the three who'd do it have shown that level of bloodlust until now. More than likely she'll end up restrained.

@Sloss, doesn't feel like your classical red herring. Just smells like she's a competitive and unethical bi**h. @Dulton, yeah hope pally restrains her

I guess the best way to counter a ghoul is by killstealing.

Wait, I'm confused. Why does Foxy know about Maria instigating the betrayal? IIRC she voted neutral and wasn't on the kill team? Or am I forgetting something?

The neutral team was able to watch what the apple/orange teams were doing over cameras. Stands to reason they would know about their planning.

@Lurker Team neutral got to make bets on both teams and observe the whole play, so Foxy would know a lot about what happened that round

@Lurker You're forgetting that she was in a special room with the other neutral voters and saw the whole game

@Lurker
Her, alongside Cheekbones and the Smile Player, all voted neutral and thus were stuck spectating the Apple and Oranges game, and betting on the player that would win, thus being able to hear the conversations everyone would be having.

I'm starting to think that Foxy hates Maria more than Levin. Which I get, at least Levin is honest about how shitty he is.

But how is any of that worse than Foxy's betrayal of Tobi at the start? Or well, *now* when she's backstabbing someone who's paying her for protection?

Certainly I don't see how the apple/orange money thing is relevant to the Ghoul situation. They aren't comparing apples with oranges on that one.

Even on the voting, is voting yellow just to see what would happen really civilised behaviour? And who knows, maybe Maria's colour-blind or something?

Certainly, there's a big leap between that and being willing to cooperate with a ghoul.

Although she was *implying* she would cooperate rather than saying so outright and the ghoul formerly known as Lord Infinite *sobs with Bindy* only attacked them in self defence, so...

@Zyzyzyryxy: Well if they're planning to escape, do they really care about he rules at this point?

@Commander Dulton: The Paladin pretty casually killed an Infinigangster. She's also a saboteur and gets paid more for every player who dies. How convenient for her that practicality lines up with profit.

With Foxi, see again her behaviour during the bomb incident, plus she has been pretty frothy ragey aside from that.

I only recently stopped to examine the icons on page 1170. I'd somehow never noticed that Maria's icon is a skull. (I also hadn't noticed the hint that Housten works for Vallance.)

It's tempting to say she's a saboteur and leave it at that, but that doesn't fit the pattern. Everyone else's icon represents something personal. Either how they look, or their name, or an out-of-game allegiance they hold.

If it was just her name, I doubt she'd be acting like this, and I don't see any skull iconography on her outfit, so my guess is the skull refers to an out-of-game allegiance or goal. Perhaps she's the one who entered under false pretenses! On page 1178 she claimed she's here to win above all else, but her actions suggest she's here to prolong the game and make people die.