23393: Wkschull - Saturday, September 12 2020 - 5:36 AM
Tobi's bruise just changing sides like a cosmetic eye patch.
23394: fan - Saturday, September 12 2020 - 6:17 AM
Uh oh, look like this place is changing our sweet, innocent, little Tobi!
23395: Whispers of Sorrow - Saturday, September 12 2020 - 6:55 AM
Yeah, I've been meaning to comment on Tobi's increasing general nastiness. Honestly, she seems like the most unpleasant person on her team.
Not to mention that she's falling
for the obvious intent of Levin and that lady who robbed almost everyone to spread mistrust on team green. Divide and conquer indeed.
23396: Chris E. - Saturday, September 12 2020 - 8:34 AM
The Smile Foundation will be pleased indeedeth with the changes in Tobi's attitude.
Meanwhile I still mostly imagine it would have been best for the players to just make the trades as big as possible to get this done quickly. Either spreading them evenly between all the players (so that there was equality in the ability to do anything weird) or biasing towards players who everyone agrees are honest.
As far as I can tell it still looks like the competition between the two 'teams' is nonexistent since there is no asymmetry, thus no reason to accept unequal trades and thus no reason to try them.
The only thing an individual could do would be to mess with their own team by cashing the fruit in - and that would actually reduce their own score. So it would only be done out of self-destructive spite. In theory you could try to use it to influence the death voting system... but then all you'll do is make yourself lose to everyone on the other team. Players on opposite teams could try to agree to both do it... but then either of them can beat the other one by reneging. So there's no reason to expect the other player to stick to the deal, so there's no reason to make the deal... except for people on opposite teams who genuinely want to support each other. I guess it was reasonable to worry about Infinite and his minion doing that.
When trying to do a trade involving non-fruit items... the trouble is, the player bringing the extra fruit to pay for these items has to load it onto a chip and can usually be seen doing this by their team. Maybe players are meant to do this when left alone in the 'orchard', and this is what the one-person lift is for.
I do think it would be funny if there really wasn't anything untoward going on, everyone wins, and the players (and us in the comments) are all just worrying about their potential activities because of the impression that the environment of the game has given them. Though overall I think it's more likely that Smile/Neorice does have a nasty surprise for us.
23397: Luminous Lead - Saturday, September 12 2020 - 9:07 AM
Getting a bit nasty there Tobi.
23398: Torizo - Saturday, September 12 2020 - 9:46 AM
Thinking back on it, in the Death Vote room Levin had assumed that he'd had the most points and should be in the position to choose who to put up for a vote.
Assuming that to be true, if this round finishes up entirely evenly without any single player earning more score relative to the others, it's possible that after this little Fruit Game Levin would actually be able to send a player of his choice to the Death Vote.
That itself could be trouble, especially if he sends in Shaliah, who might have a enough people who'd vote to kill her just because.
The fact that Levin himself is the one who suggested going 100% neutral on the round is also a little suspicious, in that light.
23399: SilentWrangler - Saturday, September 12 2020 - 12:40 PM
I don't think this is a permanent change of attitude yet. Remember: she's been under constant stress the whole time, and was on the painful end of betrayal several times in quick succession.
So, she's tired and is slow to trust a certain group of people, two of which left her to die, one "accidentally" pushed a button to kill a person they just met and one is explicitly here to take away her friend.
But, she has Three, and she does know that decent people exist here (old junk collector). Given a moment to rest, she likely will remain reasonably cautious, but not with her ability to trust smashed to pieces.
Of course, I am absolutely certain SF will go out of their way to break her.
There is less players on the red team right? They will therefore get more points coz it's less spread out. So someone from the kill team will win...
This does not bode well
23402: Violet - Saturday, September 12 2020 - 6:53 PM
You could argue that telling her about Infinite gives them a chance to mess with everyone, but I feel like this is a dick move on Tobi's part.
23403: Za_blargian - Saturday, September 12 2020 - 8:13 PM
Tobi's "being nasty" seems wholly justified to me. Bindy's first interaction with Tobi was when she tried to kidnap Tobi, along with a bunch of other Infinite thugs. Further, a number of those thugs had stabbed Tobi seconds after meeting her, and stole her stuff. That stuff was why Bindy was there to kidnap Tobi in the first place. When you try to kidnap someone and associate with people who stabbed and robbed that same person, I don't think it's unfair for that person to refuse to help you, aye? Especially given how Tobi's trust has been betrayed several times throughout this game alone.
23404: Anonymouse - Saturday, September 12 2020 - 9:34 PM
http://www.neorice.com/hoh_tobi_556 is just about why Tobi is so hostile towards Infinite. Her first experience with them was saying one word, and then getting stabbed.
As for team composition, I believe we're still waiting to find out if those who voted neutral, and the Blue jester, are with them. If it's just the ones who voted red, though, where are the others right now?
Tobi's bruise just changing sides like a cosmetic eye patch.
Uh oh, look like this place is changing our sweet, innocent, little Tobi!
Yeah, I've been meaning to comment on Tobi's increasing general nastiness. Honestly, she seems like the most unpleasant person on her team.
Not to mention that she's falling
for the obvious intent of Levin and that lady who robbed almost everyone to spread mistrust on team green. Divide and conquer indeed.
The Smile Foundation will be pleased indeedeth with the changes in Tobi's attitude.
Meanwhile I still mostly imagine it would have been best for the players to just make the trades as big as possible to get this done quickly. Either spreading them evenly between all the players (so that there was equality in the ability to do anything weird) or biasing towards players who everyone agrees are honest.
As far as I can tell it still looks like the competition between the two 'teams' is nonexistent since there is no asymmetry, thus no reason to accept unequal trades and thus no reason to try them.
The only thing an individual could do would be to mess with their own team by cashing the fruit in - and that would actually reduce their own score. So it would only be done out of self-destructive spite. In theory you could try to use it to influence the death voting system... but then all you'll do is make yourself lose to everyone on the other team. Players on opposite teams could try to agree to both do it... but then either of them can beat the other one by reneging. So there's no reason to expect the other player to stick to the deal, so there's no reason to make the deal... except for people on opposite teams who genuinely want to support each other. I guess it was reasonable to worry about Infinite and his minion doing that.
When trying to do a trade involving non-fruit items... the trouble is, the player bringing the extra fruit to pay for these items has to load it onto a chip and can usually be seen doing this by their team. Maybe players are meant to do this when left alone in the 'orchard', and this is what the one-person lift is for.
I do think it would be funny if there really wasn't anything untoward going on, everyone wins, and the players (and us in the comments) are all just worrying about their potential activities because of the impression that the environment of the game has given them. Though overall I think it's more likely that Smile/Neorice does have a nasty surprise for us.
Getting a bit nasty there Tobi.
Thinking back on it, in the Death Vote room Levin had assumed that he'd had the most points and should be in the position to choose who to put up for a vote.
Assuming that to be true, if this round finishes up entirely evenly without any single player earning more score relative to the others, it's possible that after this little Fruit Game Levin would actually be able to send a player of his choice to the Death Vote.
That itself could be trouble, especially if he sends in Shaliah, who might have a enough people who'd vote to kill her just because.
The fact that Levin himself is the one who suggested going 100% neutral on the round is also a little suspicious, in that light.
I don't think this is a permanent change of attitude yet. Remember: she's been under constant stress the whole time, and was on the painful end of betrayal several times in quick succession.
So, she's tired and is slow to trust a certain group of people, two of which left her to die, one "accidentally" pushed a button to kill a person they just met and one is explicitly here to take away her friend.
But, she has Three, and she does know that decent people exist here (old junk collector). Given a moment to rest, she likely will remain reasonably cautious, but not with her ability to trust smashed to pieces.
Of course, I am absolutely certain SF will go out of their way to break her.
There is less players on the red team right? They will therefore get more points coz it's less spread out. So someone from the kill team will win...
This does not bode well
You could argue that telling her about Infinite gives them a chance to mess with everyone, but I feel like this is a dick move on Tobi's part.
Tobi's "being nasty" seems wholly justified to me. Bindy's first interaction with Tobi was when she tried to kidnap Tobi, along with a bunch of other Infinite thugs. Further, a number of those thugs had stabbed Tobi seconds after meeting her, and stole her stuff. That stuff was why Bindy was there to kidnap Tobi in the first place. When you try to kidnap someone and associate with people who stabbed and robbed that same person, I don't think it's unfair for that person to refuse to help you, aye? Especially given how Tobi's trust has been betrayed several times throughout this game alone.
http://www.neorice.com/hoh_tobi_556 is just about why Tobi is so hostile towards Infinite. Her first experience with them was saying one word, and then getting stabbed.
As for team composition, I believe we're still waiting to find out if those who voted neutral, and the Blue jester, are with them. If it's just the ones who voted red, though, where are the others right now?
Oh, so she did keep them from meeting, phew