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Wednesday, March 5 2025 - 12:28 AM
By: Neoriceisgood

Should I thank her?

Oh, I see.

46152: Zet - Wednesday, March 5 2025 - 12:52 AM

Oh, how shocking, Maria killed Infinite. But who told her to do that?

46153: Silver - Wednesday, March 5 2025 - 1:03 AM

Busted. Did everyone in this game have a gun? :P

46154: ouch - Wednesday, March 5 2025 - 1:39 AM

damn, spoilers! dude...

46155: Crowcraw - Wednesday, March 5 2025 - 1:42 AM

Woah, spoilers Mr Ghoul Infinite. That's supposed to be a secret.

46156: tfernandesart - Wednesday, March 5 2025 - 1:57 AM

Oh I see! So Shalhia wasn't that insane. She didn't know from where the knife came from. So Maria must have tried to stab her with it and she is so incredible that she defended herself and hurted Maria in the process. And now, knowing what happened with Infinite and being very smart she will be able to realize what may have happened.

46157: someone - Wednesday, March 5 2025 - 2:11 AM

Well, if it isn't the consequences of your own actions.

46158: noname - Wednesday, March 5 2025 - 4:12 AM

The proverbial cat is out of the proverbial bag.

Fun fact: If you want to say "fuck"/"fucking" in parenthesis you can just say "proverbial" instead.

46159: noname - Wednesday, March 5 2025 - 4:12 AM

The proverbial cat is out of the proverbial bag.

Fun fact: If you want to say "fuck"/"fucking" in parenthesis you can just say "proverbial" instead.

46160: Gnoff - Wednesday, March 5 2025 - 5:07 AM

And this is why the game required a magic user. So they could be killed and smile could measure the ghoulification process.
At least that is my hypothesis

46161: Tomas - Wednesday, March 5 2025 - 6:21 AM

Why is Shalhia a threat to Toby, and who's the great source of xp?

46165: A - Wednesday, March 5 2025 - 8:55 AM

...Finally, it's been revealed.

I've suspected it for quite some time now, but we never had anything 'definitive'... only things that were 'suspicious'...

46166: Melany - Wednesday, March 5 2025 - 9:32 AM

@tfernandesart
Infinite got killed with a gun, though (Pg. 2061). If Maria did it, then she has a gun, and if she has a gun, it'd be a little weird for her to try to kill the paladin with a knife instead.

@Tomas

Shalhia's original goal was literally to arrest Tobi. Granted, by this point, she is significantly less interested in doing that, but I don't think the ghoul can appreciate the distinction.

"Great source of XP" also refers to her - she is strong, and stronger enemies give more XP.

46167: Ulan - Wednesday, March 5 2025 - 10:36 AM

Does the ghoul have the body's memories? Or does the ghoul have a memory starting the moment that the ghoulification begins?

46168: oskarloko - Wednesday, March 5 2025 - 11:10 AM

Gnoff - well said

Tomas - Shaliah is a threat to whatever the ghouls want from Toby. The great order will surely imprision her and use from their own goals, far away for any ghoul

46169: Sporf - Wednesday, March 5 2025 - 11:40 AM

My guess is the magic clone here is not much of an actual threat to Shalia. He's made of magic and if Shalia is an esper then she should be able to disrupt him in addition to all her weird bio abilities.

46170: tfernandesart - Wednesday, March 5 2025 - 8:45 PM

@Gnoff
That's a very good hypothesis!

46171: Whispers of Sorrow - Wednesday, March 5 2025 - 9:15 PM

The question remains: Is any of this actually happening?

@tfernandesart: But in that case, why was Maria surprised to have been stabbed? Demanding to know what was wrong the Shalhia and so forth. Sure, she could have rolled with the paladin's confusion, but her initial responses were before Shalhia gave any indication of that: https://www.neorice.com/hoh_4124

@Tomas: Shalhia came here specifically to kidnap and enslave Tobi. It seems Xzalclock objects to that.

46174: Welf - Wednesday, March 5 2025 - 11:48 PM

So it was Maria? I thought it was Mr. Yellow.

46175: Zet - Thursday, March 6 2025 - 12:49 AM

@Tomas:
Shalhia is not a threat to Toby. But her actions may prevent Toby doing something that the ghouls find crucial to happen.

And the great source of XP is Shalhia herself. If Infinite offs her.

46194: tfernandesart - Thursday, March 6 2025 - 1:24 PM

@Melany Hmmm. Good point. But perhaps something happened and she lost her gun somehow. And Shalhia also have a big gun with her. Isn't that weird? If she indeed wanted to kill Maria, even being affected by the madness, wouldn't she use that? That remains to be seen.

@Whispers of Sorrow: Another good consideration; That actually bothered me too after I posted the comment. But perhaps she expected Shalhia to be completed defenseless and confused, almost in a static way, and not that she could react like that. I kind of hoped that that would be explained.
On one hand, this knife came from somewhere and Maria is acting very suspicious. On the other hand, Shalhia may have found it among Jay-Jay's things and she didn't even realize that. It makes more sense, I concur.
Actually, after considering both of your points, I think that's the more probable possibility.


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