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Wednesday, August 24 2016 - 1:28 AM
By: Neoriceisgood

Graphs.

Oh I see, I see.

10243: Jack Morgan - Wednesday, August 24 2016 - 1:45 AM

Man, Gazz or whatever his name is seems really riled up by being told some magic is really hard to learn. Isn't he like, a young teen? Kid should take a chill pill. Overly determined anime kid attitude won't get you very far, bud.

10244: Tom - Wednesday, August 24 2016 - 2:08 AM

Ooooh, moar explanations, I like it :D

Gazz looks uncharacteristically determined on the last panel.

10245: UnknownID - Wednesday, August 24 2016 - 3:05 AM

Gazz: Challange accepted!

Nice chart! :)

10247: -D- - Wednesday, August 24 2016 - 5:07 AM

Speaking of challenges, lets figure out what techniques are (not counting summon/erasure, from left to right, top to bottom):

Blue:
1. Empowering attacks
2. Empowering defense
3. Making spirit energy visible
4. Empowering others (buffs)

Green:
5. Clone
6. Weather manipulation?
7. Offensive buffs
8. Create spirit weapons

10248: Bisected - Wednesday, August 24 2016 - 5:17 AM

Chance of turning evil 57% and rising.

10249: ionrayner - Wednesday, August 24 2016 - 7:23 AM

You should be at the top 5 webcomics, Neo, really.

10250: Storm - Wednesday, August 24 2016 - 9:04 AM

@Jack Morgan: I like the highly determined attitude Gazz has! I don't know why you say it won't get him very far; determined people seem to do very well in the real world.

10251: verycoolname - Wednesday, August 24 2016 - 9:20 AM

I like Gazz, he is a more fleshed out character then most side characters.

That kind of attitude is actually more protagonisty than Window's weird fusion of apathetic introversion and whiny victim complex. (I like Noah, don't get me wrong, he just needs to suck it up and make some friends)

10252: Zed - Wednesday, August 24 2016 - 10:17 AM

@verycoolname I think the fact that Noah is introverted and easily annoyed is more realistic than anything. I prefer the MC being realistic to being "protagonisty" sometimes. Burk does that and more for me.

10253: szmol - Wednesday, August 24 2016 - 10:39 AM

Yay, skill tree.

10254: verycoolname - Wednesday, August 24 2016 - 10:54 AM

@Zed- I get where you're coming from but my preferences lie towards characters and settings being both exceptional and true to themselves.

I personally feel that stories read for entertainment need to be special and the focus should be on those making the specialness happen, Noah is special, he just isn't a main character. After all, he is being moved by the story, not the other way around. (This may change as he goes through character development of course.)

Gazz is in the same boat as Noah but is actively trying to improve what he has control over. (his personal strength) Tobi is working to get home and Burk is defeating evil. these are all active roles compared to Noah.

10255: Natemare - Wednesday, August 24 2016 - 11:31 AM

@ -D-

6 looks more like regeneration/self healing

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Noah, for some reason, has one of the three bottom abilities, calling it now.

10256: Jack Morgan - Wednesday, August 24 2016 - 1:31 PM

@Natemare

I don't think so. Neo's said that Noah is Pandemonium, not magic potential. From what I understand, magic potential itself doesn't just start off as any of those abilities, just the potential to learn them.

Thus, it doesn't really make any sense -or do I think that it would be possible- that a Pandemonium user would have somehow been born with mastery over a branch of Magic Potential.

10257: Junion - Wednesday, August 24 2016 - 2:35 PM

Honestly Gazz and Noah are both pretty realistic.

Gazz has no issues being a magic soldier..he's rolling with the punches. And he's rather competitive, give him a challenge and he takes it, and pushes himself beyond, because he views himself as that capable. We haven't seen his background..but so far that is a believable character. If that character isn't believable well...that's honestly a sign (to me) there may be some other issues in someone's life...though it's just one of many that I would need to see together.

As for Noah, yeah he's also a relatively normal emo kid type character. He's the passive type protagonist. He is the subject of the story not because he is trying to be a part of it..but because the story keeps thrusting him into itself. And pulling him along for the ride. Now I'm assuming he'll be gaining some character development, and become more active, but that is who and what he is right now. He's more of the bit character you'd normally see in the background, that eventually gets forgotten until they become relevant later. But being the protag..Noah obviously will have more to him in the end.

10258: Reginald - Wednesday, August 24 2016 - 8:05 PM

If I'm not much mistaken, Gazz has already mastered on of the green-tier abilities: weapon infusion. An elegant weapon indeed. From the fact that he's already naturally attuned enough to his abilities to utilize a difficult power without prior knowledge of its existence. You've also set up some subtle character contrast between Gazz and Hevel; where Gazz is the natural center of attention and has a tendency to show off, Hevel is almost always silent. However, it is evident that Hevel is not to be underestimated; during the Eloy's "test", he managed to both move far faster than a regular person should be able to and block an attack that would incapacitate an ordinary man. While not as obvious and impressive as Gazz's demonstration, his mastery may, in fact, be more powerful.

Also, while we're attempting to guess the meaning of several of the ability markers, the green ability second from the right appears to be enhanced senses, focused on the eyes, ears, and the heart (sensing the presence of others).

10259: harison86 - Wednesday, August 24 2016 - 8:34 PM

"I'm a teacher but I'm not going to at least explain these 3 important things to you emotional, hormonal teenagers who were unwillingly drafted into this military program. For the sake of suspense. As a grown adult I will also make petty challenges/bets with kids in order to do my job."
YEAH OK GARTH
(Not really hating, but really now.)

10260: Storm - Wednesday, August 24 2016 - 9:06 PM

It's interesting to see how folks respond to characters. I think that one of this comic's very strong points is how each character feels like a real person; the universe feels like it contains many real actors, rather than a single player with lots of NPC's as scenery.

That said, as far as the characters go, Noah's been my least favorite; he's just so emo and weak-willed. It's easier for me to empathize with characters like Burk and Gazz, who seem to have strong hearts and spirits, while it's harder for me to empathize with characters like Noah, who just strike me as pathetic and whiny.

I think that the site's organization and story setup heavily foreshadow Noah being a major, powerful character. But it seems like he's going to get there through having been born with a crazy-strong power, like the Pandemonium users who can raise cities, rather than through any personal effort or merit. And I suspect that he'll still be whiny even when the world's been handed to him on a silver platter.

I think that this sort of character diversity really makes for a compelling story. I may not empathize with Noah, but he's still an interesting character.

10261: phyrex - Wednesday, August 24 2016 - 9:31 PM

its weird to see gazz look so pissed...

10262: Drazile - Wednesday, August 24 2016 - 11:34 PM

What if Gazz is the protagonist? :P

10263: -D- - Thursday, August 25 2016 - 1:03 AM

@Natemare:

Hm, you're right and on closer look 3. looks more like some kind of Inner fire effect (Aura effect?)

10285: eimbers - Thursday, August 25 2016 - 2:30 PM

the first of the bottom row looks like astral projection


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